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TERMINATOR GENISYS

In the ravaged wasteland left after the nuclear holocaust of Judgment Day, the Human Resistance, led by the legendary John Connor, is locked in a desperate conflict against Skynet’s pitiless machines.

Who will ultimately survive in The War Against the Machines?

Pre-Order Now! Ships Early June!

Contents:
Full-colour rulebook: 128 pages
Exclusive metal Kyle Reese model
10 Terminator Endoskeletons
5 Terminator Crawlers
16 Resistance Soldiers
Quickstart rules
Card scenery and tokens
Double-sided gaming mat
Rules reference sheet
13 colour-coded dice
Fate die

GBP 70.00 / USD 112.00
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Full Wargames System!

The War Against the Machines opens up a whole world of Terminator Genisys wargaming.

The Endoskeletons and Human Restistance fighters in the main set will plunge you straight into the desperate battle for survival - but this is just the start.

• Advanced Rules covering commanders, different weapons, vehicles, transports and even VTOLs such as Hunter-Killer Gunships.

• Battle Scenarios - a matrix of 36 balanced games.

• Force Lists. Statlines and special rules for all models and weapons of the Human Resistance and Skynet’s Machines.

• Narrative Scenarios - recreating the events of the War Against the Machines.

More to Come...

Over the coming months, we'll be releasing lots more for Terminator Genisys, including:

• Special character models of all the main characters.

• Reinforcement sets to expand your forces.

• Command and special weapon models for the Endoskeletons.




Saw this over on Beasts of War and didn't see a thread here yet...

January 2, 2015 in Featured, SciFi, The Terminator by brennon

So we had a look at the teaser trailer for the movie not long ago and speculated as to the future of the miniatures game for us to play out the battles against Skynet on the tabletop. Well, it looks like that might become a reality this year…

Well there’s already a few clues to go on that’s for sure. The first is the little River Horse stamp in the corner. This means we’ve got the mind of Alessio Cavatore behind this for sure. Away from that the game seems centred on the Terminator Genisys film that’s coming out so it’s probably going to develop some of the big military engagements we see in that film. With Cavatore at the helm we could potentially see his trademark ‘easy to learn, hard to master’ rules set being a thing as well. It will be interesting to see how this one develops!


Not much to go on yet, but as there seem to be a miniatures range associated to it I could be all over it... Being a Fox IP and given the AvP kickstarter delays due to the laborious approval process, I suspect 'Summer 2015' may become 'Summer 2016' My bad - this is apparently a Paramount/Sundance IP...

Still who wouldn't want an army of T-800s stomping over human skulls (oh wait - GW have both of those..)

I'll be back (with more updates as they come in...)

UPDATE: 7 Jan 2015

Announcement: Terminator Genisys – The Miniatures Game

We are very excited to announce that Warlord Games will be the exclusive distributor for the forthcoming Terminator Genisys Miniatures Game.

Produced by River Horse and written by Bolt Action author Alessio Cavatore, it will be a 28mm skirmish game pitting the Human Resistance led by John Connor against the Machines of Skynet.

The boxed set – War Against the Machines – is due for release in the Summer to coincide with the new movie...


UPDATE 22 Jan 2015

Info from the BoW Google Hangout held on 21 Jan '15 kindly provided by NoggintheNog
NoggintheNog wrote:
I watched it.

The boxed starter game will be 10 terminators versus 16 humans plus human hero.

Models are hard plastic, done by renedra, they only showed the terminators, they look a little static but were decent quality.

Heroes for both sides will likely be resin.

Besides the starter box, there will be hero clampacks and boxed additional plastic forces, with larger models such as vehicles coming later.

The game used poly dice, d4, 8, 12 and 20's, plus another dice he called a 'fate dice' (custom D6) to determine activation order. He designed bolt Action so think of a variation on that sort of turn mechanism.

The boxed set – War Against the Machines – is due for release in the Summer to coincide with the new movie…


Unfortunately, due to IP restrictions, the images shown on the Google Hangout cannot be previewed elsewhere at this time:
warzan said: On January 21, 2015

Sorry guys this was a live one only.

Their contract with FOX stipulates it can’t be viewable after because of imagery we were able to show live.

They will let us know when we can set it public again

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Hah, yeah - the horror that is Necrons... If Prodos got in on the sculpting I would imagine the final minis would be 'blow your head off' awesome...

I also agree, please don't let this game disappoint...
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Some comments on BoW from a poster called 'cavatore'

In answer to comments about this going to Kickstarter;
Nope, no KS!


How many factions would there be in a Terminator universe?
2 factions. to start with…


Game mechanics based on BA or a completely new system?
New mechanics. No KS and no chess involved!
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Nice find DaveC - I've updated the OP with this announcement

Interesting move for Warlords considering they also have the Beyond the Gates of Antares in development as well.
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From Alessio Cavatore's Facebook page:
Question: What scale?
Alessio Cavatore: they are going to be 'heroic' 28mmm... so more like a bit over 30 really!

Q: i had heard Mantic games were looking at an other IP a while back after Mars attacks. Is this it or purely River Horse?
AC: Purely River Horse production. Distribution by...

Q: What scale is it going to be? Skirmish I assume?
AC: Skirmish indeed. Single models moving individually, not in units.
At least in Year 1... there are three films planned...

Alessio Cavatore: And if the film/game go well... we'll probably go mass battle in Year 2!
No crowdfunding = baby steps!

Q: Alessio Cavatore, you are well known for your rules mechanics and clean writing style however are River Horse going to publish only the game or are you also the models manufacturer. Or is it more of a partnership much like Osprey & Northstar?
AC: River Horse will take care of the production. Another company (still to be announced...) will take care of sales/distribution.

Q: With there be a Big Starter box set???
AC: Yes, there's gonna ba a starter set!

Q: Alessio - do you know (rough month) when the starter set will be on sale in the UK?
AC: we're aiming for July (film release...).

Q: 28 mm standard? this would be something i'd be interested in if so
AC: yes, heroic 28mm, so a little taller (Arnie is a tall guy after all!)

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Comment from Warlord Games via Facebook

Q: Is Warlord also providing the plastics/miniatures?

Warlord Games: This is a River Horse product not made by us. We are the exclusive distributors worldwide. As soon as we have approved pics we'll make sure to show them off.

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Facebook

Alessio Cavatore
Not intentionally a tease (well, maybe a little...), but it's all very secret (under big, fat NDAs), and all so last minute and in rapid development...
On Wednesday on BOW I will say what I can for now!
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Update on Beasts of War

If you didn’t know already Warlord Games and River Horse, with Alessio Cavatore at the helm, are going to be kicking off a Terminator Genisys Miniatures Game this summer! We’ll be having a Google Hangout chat with the man himself this Wednesday at 7pm/19:00 GMT and we want your questions for him!

If you have questions about the rules, the miniatures, the main boxed game, the scale, or anything else you can think of put it in the comments below and we’ll handpick some questions and queries and get them answered for you.

As it stands we know it’s going to be a skirmish game based around the new movie and the main box will be called War Against The Machines featuring the forces of Skynet and of course the Human Resistance.

You WILL be notified on here before the Hangout begins and you’ll be able to watch it here, hosted on the main website or through our Youtube channel.

What would YOU like to know?


Unfortunately I will be at work during the Hangout, but I'll check in later on Wednesday night to see what is what...
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NoggintheNog wrote:
I watched it.

*snip*.


Thanks mate - I missed this due to work - will add this to the OP though
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Facebook group is up: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1768932519997968/

And some comments from Alessio on BoW

cavatore said: On January 22, 2015

Hi guys, thanks for your comments (well, most of them!). As Warren said, we are unfortunately bound by legal obligations about what we can and cannot show, and when. It is definitely not our choice, but it’s not something we can change.

Would I not want to show more stuff? Am I not very excited about the stuff we’re making and cannot wait to show it to the world? You bet I am! And I’m chomping at the bit to be allowed to do so… and we are putting as much pressure as we can on the giant corporations we are dealing with to be allowed to show more. Sadly, of course, this is an ‘ant vs boot’ kinda relationship, as Loki would put it… and we are the ant!

To ease the pain of people that have missed the live show, all I can do, until the time we are allowed to make the video public again, is to answer a few questions here…

Thanks for your cooperation… Oh, wait, wrong movie!

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cavatore said: On January 23, 2015
Hi, here goes:
1.In what form will the leader of the machines be in the terminators’ army? The humans have John Connor, so will there be a miniature of the leader of Skynet?
Unfortunately, the leader of Skynet is Skynet, which is AI software… which does not make a good model! There are gonna be big bad guys though, but some are secret I’m afraid…

2. Will there be the full range of terminator model types from all the movies or just Genisys and T1 and T2?
Just Genisys actually. That’s what we have the licence for. But most cool stuff is in there.

3. The T1000 can shapeshift, will that ability be in the game? Apart from creating knives and stabbing weapons, will they be able to disappear as the surface of the floor or become molten and enter through barred areas and holes in defenses?
They certainly have some entertaining deployment rules… and are sooo tough to kill…

4. Can you only play the game in the future war, or can you play it in 1980′s Los Angeles too?
Both. But the centre of the action is obviously the war against the machines – as humans without plasma weapons are not very well equipped to deal with terminators…

5. Will there be Arnie’s reprogrammed Terminator in the game?
There will be a ‘good’ Arnie, yes…

6. Can you win every battle by capturing a terminator, reprogramming it and sending back to the 1800′s and kill Charles Babbage, the “father” of the computer, and stop all possible creations of a future, homicidal artificial computer intelligence? Or, if you play as the machines, can you win by sending a terminator to kill Sarah Connor’s great, great, great, great, great grandparents?
Not exactly that, but you can send agents back in time to try to change the future (i.e. getting a re-roll…) and the other player can send his agents to kill yours (i.e. trying to stop you getting a re-roll)…

7. Can you create your own alternate timeline in the game?
Not literally, but I assume that you could in a campaign… or is it that you create an alternative timeline every time you play a scenario and the result is different from the ‘historical’?

8. Will there be special minis of Kyle Reese, Lance Henriksen’s cop, the police chief, Dr Silberman, and Bill Paxton as a punk?
The corresponding Genisys actors, of course, if the character appears in Genisys…

9. Will the miniatures be multi-part plastics which will allow for cool conversions (terminator skulls and arms on human bodies)?
Core troops are dry-fit hard multipart plastics produced by Renedra and sculpted by Bob Naismith.
Characters and other bits and bops are resin or metal, and sculpted by…

10. Will there lots of skulls; both human and terminator to litter the battlefield with?
Every terminator frame has two terminators and a ‘crawler’ – a terminator that had its legs blown off… crawlers can be used in the game, and spare ones can be turned into rather nice terrain!
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There are some images on his webpage - although it's shockingly badly designed...

http://www.bobnaismith.com/
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Interesting interview with Bob Naismith and some pics of his older Rogue Trader work:

http://magpieandoldlead.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/an-interview-withsculptor-bob-naismith.html

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 Pacific wrote:
 Taarnak wrote:
 Ruglud wrote:
There are some images on his webpage - although it's shockingly badly designed...

http://www.bobnaismith.com/

Then it's appropriate for the subject matter....

His work is mediocre at it's best. Just because the guy started sculpting in the 80s doesn't mean he can't improve. It has been 30 years or so...

~Eric


While I agree that some of his stuff hasn't been that good (taking this stuff subjectively), are you honestly able to look at that list JudgeDoug posted on the previous page, and then dismiss anything that could come as part of this game out of hand?


Just to say - my reference to 'shockingly badly designed...' refers to the website, not his sculpting. Looking through his work over the years, I can see good and bad, which probably describes the majority of sculptors out there (maybe with the exception of the Perry twins who always seem to deliver quality sculpts...)

But as others say, until we have actual examples of the Terminator : Genisys miniatures, I'll reserve judgement... I do though have high hopes for this game..
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They're doing question or two of the week on the facebook group

Q. Mtt Adlard asked about the figure count and as to if the Game is Skirmish or Battle.
A. Well at release "The BOX" will have enough models to happily play as a Skirmish Game, the rules however allow bigger games to be played.

Q. Tom Robinson asked about the materials for the models, Plastic, Resin, Metal.
A. Simple answer Tom is Yes, currently all of the above. "The BOX" will be very nice hard plastic from the guru's at Renedra. MOST of it sculpted by Bob Naismith.........

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The Kyle Reese mini is being sculpted by Michael Perry


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Yep, these images aren't best quality - they look better when smaller...

As for the Bob Naismith stuff - he's confirmed as sculpting the T800s that we've already seen

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Some comments from Alessio on Facebook regarding the T800 3-ups

Alessio Cavatore: They look more static than the rebels specifically because the first ones we made were rejected and the feedback was (and I quote) "can you make them more robotic and less athletic"?
If you watch the trailer you'll absolutely see why!

Alessio Cavatore: Also, they are dry fit, and you can rotate the torso around the hips and the gun+arms around the shoulders a bit, so you get quite some different angles out of the basic ones.

Alessio Cavatore: Guys, please keep in mind that these are 3-ups... and of course a 3up normally a lot more like a toy model than a 28mm model... It's to do with proportions... as an extreme example, have you seen what a Space Marine looks like when made into a man-sized statue - looks like a squat!

For example, in a 28mm model, some body/facial features need to be slightly larger than in 'reality', as otherwise the features simply disappear... so a 28mm blown up to 3-up looks a bit more 'cartoony' (in the sense that in a real human the torso is five-seven times the head... in mickey mouse it's just two... )...

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 adamsouza wrote:
DId anyone else notice the not humanoid, 3 legged, terminator in the Super Bowl ad for Genisys ?


I've seen the ad on the Facebook page that's billed as the 'Big Game Spot' but didn't see any odd looking terminators? Can you get a screen shot and post it here?

Comments on Facebook from Alessio

Alessio Cavatore: vehicles (for both sides) are in the rules, however we are waiting to gauge the kind of reaction the game is going to have before we consider (and can afford) making expensive kits... no crowdfunding = baby steps!

Alessio Cavatore: The rules are getting there and will be finalised in a month or so...
i am planning to make some little videos to go into details of the rules...
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Not sure if we've seen this image yet on here? Some concept art for the Terminators...


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Resistance fighter 3-ups previewed over on the Facebook group as they reached 500 members (talk of another preview at 750 and again at 1,000)

Alessio Cavatore
Resistance fighters 3-ups... planning the sprue... at Renedra Ltd. ...featuring: "Runny Guy", "Kneely Guy", "Vasquez" and "Hulk Hogan"...



Alessio Cavatore with Bob Naismith
One assembled 3-up (resin cast at home!!!).
We call him 'Runny guy'... please suggest a better name!







Not sure what's going on with 'runny guys' pointing finger - looks a bit odd, but maybe it's due to this being a 3-up and a WIP?? Gotta admit that I'm not blown away by these yet, but they look ok
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A note from Alessio on weapon design
Alessio Cavatore
If you check the trailer and some of the pictures you find online and in magazines, the riles are different from the previous movies... their resistance ones look scratch built kinda like AKs with a generator under the barrel. The endos look like mass produced
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And another note about vehicles we could be seeing for the Resistance:

Alessio Cavatore
Not only Abrams [tank], but Apaches, Black Hawks, Warrior APCs... and of course trucks and humvees with plasma guns (see trailer, that thing that John Connor swivels around)... Of course in this first edition I expect all of these to be slightly broken... so I will confine them to the 'advanced rules' section!!!
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Some more photos...

T800 comparison of painted versus unpainted and Connor facing off with a mass of T800s

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T800 comparion

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Connor vs T800s (1)

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Connor vs T800s (2)

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Good question - I've not heard anything yt about them being at Salute, but Renedra and Warlord Games are both in attendance so hopefully one of them will some Terminator goodies on display ...

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Ruglud - you seem to be up to speed with Salute 2015 info, any news if they are going to be showing off this game there (or perhaps not if they are having to tie in with the movie release?)


Alessio Cavatore:
we will be at Salute at the Warlord stand, see you there!
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Alessio just commented when asked if any minis will be available to buy at Salute (25 Apr)
Alessio Cavatore:
Salute probably only a resin version of Reese... too early! Possibly Endos...


And confirmation of the minis available when the game officially launches
Alessio Cavatore:
As well as the starter set, at launch we should have:
-box of endos
-box of resistance plastics
-John Connor blister (metal? resin?)
-endos with weapon and command options (blisters... resin or metal...)
-Infiltrators
-Resistance with dogs...

Later of course Sarah Connor, Guardian (Arnie), cops, T-1000, etc...

Later, if things go well... we'll start to look at vehicles, like the spider tank, hunter killers, and stuff for the resistance too...

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Not game related but a cool movie poster nonetheless...


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Damn, that's looking pretty good

Hope to see these at Salute...
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Apparently the first 1000 Salute goodie bag people will get a free sprue.

If this is true, I'll be getting to ExCel extra early...
 
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