Do we really need a 5090 ?

[Kelt]

Wait until Nvidia announce that they're pulling out of high end consumer GPU's in favour of concentrating on AI, and that the 5090 will be the last of them.

They'll fly off the shelves!

 

[Troezar]

Wait until Nvidia announce that they're pulling out of high end consumer GPU's in favour of concentrating on AI, and that the 5090 will be the last of them.

They'll fly off the shelves!

And then backtrack once they've sold enough

 

[willhub]

Can't remember where I was but some guy was harping on how we don't need anymore than a 3060 anymore, people need to separate their personal opinion from the wider world and progression, there will always be a need for a faster GPU up to a point or until it's replaced by some alternative, you see some of the demos coming out now that look photo realistic, partly due to exposure and camera tricks but still, you'd need a 6090 to run them at 4k 120fps!

 

[GhostDog1981]

Can't remember where I was but some guy was harping on how we don't need anymore than a 3060 anymore, people need to separate their personal opinion from the wider world and progression, there will always be a need for a faster GPU up to a point or until it's replaced by some alternative, you see some of the demos coming out now that look photo realistic, partly due to exposure and camera tricks but still, you'd need a 6090 to run them at 4k 120fps!

Even a 4090 is not guaranteed locked on to perform >144 fps at 4K which shows how uneconomical this resolution is for the vast majority.

Best to say that 4K is for the fine detail aficionados (but not high fps) and 1440p for the high fps (but compromised fidelity) folk.

I still feel all those that purchased 4090s will be upgrading again when the next new shiny comes out.

 

[willhub]

Even a 4090 is not guaranteed locked on to perform >144 fps at 4K which shows how uneconomical this resolution is for the vast majority.

Best to say that 4K is for the fine detail aficionados (but not high fps) and 1440p for the high fps (but compromised fidelity) folk.

I still feel all those that purchased 4090s will be upgrading again when the next new shiny comes out.

Definitely, I may upgrade to the 5080, I know the performance gap between the 80/90 appears in benchmarks rather large but I don't think it's noticeable this gen by the time that gap matters both cards will be in the dust.

 

[Troezar]

Definitely, I may upgrade to the 5080, I know the performance gap between the 80/90 appears in benchmarks rather large but I don't think it's noticeable this gen by the time that gap matters both cards will be in the dust.

Good point, once you get past a certain FPS it's just burning energy for very little noticeable gain. I still maintain buying midrange and upgrading more often is better than buying top end and using it until it's no longer doing the job. Disclaimer: my 6950XT was bought at midrange prices

 

[StriderX]

They should try to sell the 5090 for $10k, I'd have some entertainment at least.

 

[D1craig]

Ofcourse we need it for the new 5090 exclusive tech that comes with it... how else you going to use that new dlss4, rounded corners, temporal rays beams?

 

[Blackjack Davy]

Ofcourse we need it for the new 5090 exclusive tech that comes with it... how else you going to use that new dlss4, rounded corners, temporal rays beams?

DLSS 4, you know every new game will come with it and it won't be backwards compatible with the 4090 of course.
It'll fly off the shelves! Wait and see.

 

[Zarax]

DLSS5 will be psychoacustics so that ray traced audio will emulate surround sound on 2 speakers.
And yes, ray traced audio is a thing: https://www.pcgamer.com/forza-horizon-5-will-have-ray-traced-audio-and-much-improved-engine-sounds/

 

[Ayahuasca]

Just shiny sound m8

 

[kieran_read]

There will always be a need for faster as soon as every card can run 4k at 144 then they will be talking about 8k at 144

 

[Purgatory]

DLSS5 will be psychoacustics so that ray traced audio will emulate surround sound on 2 speakers.
And yes, ray traced audio is a thing: https://www.pcgamer.com/forza-horizon-5-will-have-ray-traced-audio-and-much-improved-engine-sounds/

AMD did it first years ago from what I remember and remember posting about it. Basically using GPUS to ray trace audio and other audio features threw the GPU.

GPU Audio Digital Sound Processing Platform Now Supports AMD Radeon GPUs

GPU Audio – a Swiss startup that’s building a Digital Signal Processing platform that lets you use your computer’s Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) to accelerate audio processing – has announced that their patented audio technology is now supported on select AMD Radeon RX and AMD Radeon PRO...

forums.overclockers.co.uk

AMD TrueAudio Next​

What is RayTracing Audio? - Characteristic and operation

We explain what RayTracing Audio technology is, a technology that is based on AMD's TrueAudio Next for virtual reality

hardwaresfera.com

 

[Purgatory]

They should try to sell the 5090 for $10k, I'd have some entertainment at least.

Spoiler: Envision Endless Possibilities with NVIDIA RTX

Spoiler: But we didn't add to the video...

Endless possibilities to raise prices

That wish may become true in the future for PC users, they already have more expensive GPUS in the business market.. Endless possibilities....

 

[Calin Banc]

There will always be a need for faster as soon as every card can run 4k at 144 then they will be talking about 8k at 144

Is not even about 4k. If they REALLY wanna push things, you could get a 4090 to under 60fps at 1440p or lower. There's a long, long way until we won't need stronger hardware.

 

[Apex]

Almost £2300 for the strix as well, basically back at covid pricing levels without the pandemic to pump the consumer...

GPU's are a scam, thast's all there is to it.

 

[Subzero85]

GPU's are a scam, thast's all there is to it.

plus new consoles are due around 2026 i think ? 5090 will be lacking 2 years or so into the next console gen

 

[Grim5]

Why we need a 7090

20k gaming baby

 

[Jay85]

The people who decide on these prices do not live like the 99.99% of the population, To them £1000 for a card isn't pennies, It's even smaller than pennies.

To the likes of Dr Su, Huang and Gelsinger, £1000 is a few bottles of champagne per night.

It's the same with my work place.. They live in a dystopia that only they can see. For us commoners it's stupidly expensive and doesn't make sense, but to them this sort of cash is just lying under the sofa.

It's like when we have a meeting and we mention time and time again we need to compete better and lower prices but they say no, we're a premium store so we need to mark up 80% which puts us above other retailers and pricing ourselves stupidly high... Great if we sell niche products but we don't! We sell the same products as the store down the road and they are 30% cheaper! Are you barking mad! Then they wonder why we're not making a profit this year.


It's like they're blinded by wealth and can't see how things really are cos it doesn't affect them.

 

[Stu999]

It's the same with my work place.. They live in a dystopia that only they can see. For us commoners it's stupidly expensive and doesn't make sense, but to them this sort of cash is just lying under the sofa.

It's like when we have a meeting and we mention time and time again we need to compete better and lower prices but they say no, we're a premium store so we need to mark up 80% which puts us above other retailers and pricing ourselves stupidly high... Great if we sell niche products but we don't! We sell the same products as the store down the road and they are 30% cheaper! Are you barking mad! Then they wonder why we're not making a profit this year.


It's like they're blinded by wealth and can't see how things really are cos it doesn't affect them.

Sounds like you need to find a job where management aren't idiots.